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remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door bells, making phone calls. and i think there's going to be a lot of surprises. >> but ed rendell, a lot of republicans like ralph like to go back to the reagan days. the difference is, as i have discussed this week with some pollsters, he was 20 points up after the convention. we had seen his ability to create wide swings. we haven't seen that in this race. it's much more polarized. right? >> no question. and ralph is right to some extent about the polls. but, look, we all know that the challenger gets a big bump in the first debate. no question about it. just appearing on
remember on this day in 2000, al gore was ahead of george w. bush by two points. bush was leading him by about three points going into the last weekend. and went all the way to the supreme court. at this point in 1980, carter was leading reagan by four. there was a gallup with five days left that had him up by six. so i'm not particularizing this to chuck, but the pollsters and the press don't decide who shows up. the people who decide who shows up are the people knocking on doors, ringing door...
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is the governor summoning the compassionate conservatism of george w. bush? chris hayes gives us the how and why next. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. is an awesome place to be. introducing the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ sophisticated new styling, the fuel-saving intelligence of eassist, 37 mpg highway, and up to 580 highway miles on a single tank of gas. ♪ the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ it has everything to put you in the malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ >>> he's the invisible man of the gop, his endorsement a brief i'm for mitt romney came as a pair of elevator doors were closing. despite being the last republican to occupy the white house he was nowhere to be seen at the republican national convention but is mitt romney now embracing a little bit of w.? as the republican nominee moved toward the center of w
is the governor summoning the compassionate conservatism of george w. bush? chris hayes gives us the how and why next. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. is an awesome place to be. introducing the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu eco. ♪ sophisticated new styling, the fuel-saving intelligence of...
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>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final debate, look at this, almost tied coming in, bush starts to pull away with a strong last debate performance where he made a connection on faith. >> it's very personal. i pray for strength, i pray for which is dornlgs i pray for our troops in harp's way, i pray for my family. i pray for my little girls. prayer and religion sustain me. i receive calmness in the storms of the presidency. >> calmness in the storms of the presidency from george w. bush. he went on then from that debate to keep his lead and to win that election. >> and joining me now is c
>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final...
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this was an image from senator kerry taking on an incumbent president, george w. bush and say by simply showing up, the challenger has a lot to gain. >> yeah, when they stand on the same stage as the president of the united states, then you basically become almost an equal at that point in time, and that race went from a seven-point lead to a one-point lead in 48 hours, and that's what the challenger was able to do. john kerry won it and took the race to almost even within two days. >> so a big opportunity for mitt romney this week. >> a huge opportunity for mitt romney. he could take this race in the states that he's losing right now and change the dynamic of this race just by standing on stage and performing well. >> so much riding on it. this first debate, viewers, anywhere between 50 million, 60 million viewers are the estimates. this year more important than ever the early voting that's taking place. >> early voting has taken place in key states like iowa right now and voters willing watching now, and voters are going to be wanting this. they're already votin
this was an image from senator kerry taking on an incumbent president, george w. bush and say by simply showing up, the challenger has a lot to gain. >> yeah, when they stand on the same stage as the president of the united states, then you basically become almost an equal at that point in time, and that race went from a seven-point lead to a one-point lead in 48 hours, and that's what the challenger was able to do. john kerry won it and took the race to almost even within two days....
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you played -- you helped al gore in the bush. you played george w. bush. was he sighing in the rehearsals like he was on stage? was he breathing like that? that got on the nerves of a lot of folks. >> i did not notice any irregular breathing patterns of the vice president. i thought it was cheap that was analyzed and overanalyzed. >> got him a lot of publicity in the days that followed. >> what you could see in the press he was honestly appalled to be standing on stage with george w. bush. he thought bush was completely unworthy and had no business running for president and you could tell. he would roll his eyes. you could see that. i was playing bush. this is a worry for president obama. he debated john mccain who is an american hero. and senator obama served with senator mccain. even though he didn't agree barack obama had a very high degree of respect for john mccain looking across that stage. i fear -- he lacks that looking at romney. might not only he as he underestimate governor romney but may show -- this is a huge ri risk, he may show some of that
you played -- you helped al gore in the bush. you played george w. bush. was he sighing in the rehearsals like he was on stage? was he breathing like that? that got on the nerves of a lot of folks. >> i did not notice any irregular breathing patterns of the vice president. i thought it was cheap that was analyzed and overanalyzed. >> got him a lot of publicity in the days that followed. >> what you could see in the press he was honestly appalled to be standing on stage with...
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because i remember full well in 2004, george w. bush was 6, 7 points ahead of john kerry. he didn't prepare well. he came across as slightly impatient. he's the president of the united states, why am i debating this guy? and that race went from a six-point race to a one-point race in 48 hours. i think barack obama has to be careful. that he doesn't come across irritable or impatient. >> or running out the clock. >> perform well from a mannerism standpoint. if he doesn't, this race goes a one-point race. we're all sitting around, what happened. >> donna brazile, matt dowd brings up the mannerisms. you were in the al gore camp, everyone thought that he cleaned george bush's clock, in that debate, but on mannerisms he ended up losing. >> george, many of us remember the split screen. al gore was sitting there, rolling his eyes, looking at george bush and basically, he started to sigh. >> did president obama have that vulnerability. >> look, i think governor romney speaks in perfect sound bites. i attended many of those republican debates. one thing that he's very good at is tu
because i remember full well in 2004, george w. bush was 6, 7 points ahead of john kerry. he didn't prepare well. he came across as slightly impatient. he's the president of the united states, why am i debating this guy? and that race went from a six-point race to a one-point race in 48 hours. i think barack obama has to be careful. that he doesn't come across irritable or impatient. >> or running out the clock. >> perform well from a mannerism standpoint. if he doesn't, this race...
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w. and you are now looking at live pictures from the rally, amphitheater and meanwhile, earlier in the day, his wife, ann was greeted with kind words, by supporters at an orlando campaign office. >> i really believe, that your husband is going to be, i think that he will have as much impact as ronald reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is set to take the stage, fund-raising news from both campaigns, carl? >> reporter: that's right, may be a while before we see governor romney, it is lightning country in florida and the campaign's arrival is delayed because of fear that it might be a threatening storm. a big crowd here and big money raised by mitt romney since the debate. his debate performance clearly caught the attention of both republicans, who were worried about the trajectory of his campaign and new voters and the campaign is reporting since the debate p
w. and you are now looking at live pictures from the rally, amphitheater and meanwhile, earlier in the day, his wife, ann was greeted with kind words, by supporters at an orlando campaign office. >> i really believe, that your husband is going to be, i think that he will have as much impact as ronald reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is...
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bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think probably benjamin netanyahu's standing with important leaders is pretty well fixed, i don't think it moves it one way or another. he is a hard liner. he doesn't like this administration plainly. they have some real differences. he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrabl
bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think...
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the relationship to the george w. bush era is very uncomfortable. there are no new ideas there. the fact that they haven't figud out how to get their arms around e bush legacy given the cthat e bear hug around the policies, one thing that i think is going on is, they -- there is a limit to how stupid they want to look. i think some of them want to be ab to say the day after the saiscoming. look at what i said in october. and in september. i told you if romney doesn't talk about what he is going to do, then he is in trouble. they are trying to put their markers down alth cumns are small monthly premiums on the insurance policy. they are getting attacked. they are putting down premiums so they could purchas the insurance. the ideas whe t battle after words. a lot could happen in 41 days. greece could exit tomorrow and it looks different and we are at is table in a week. >> they are proct frd romney loss and trying to prefight the battle over the reason that it happened. let's not forget. paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicareart d presiption drug befit which has co
the relationship to the george w. bush era is very uncomfortable. there are no new ideas there. the fact that they haven't figud out how to get their arms around e bush legacy given the cthat e bear hug around the policies, one thing that i think is going on is, they -- there is a limit to how stupid they want to look. i think some of them want to be ab to say the day after the saiscoming. look at what i said in october. and in september. i told you if romney doesn't talk about what he is going...
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w. >> chris christie said the next day will be romney's time to shine. >> don't expect any zingers. >> governor romney is getting by on a zing and prayer. >> i don't know that zingers necessarily turn it around. >> that zinger and that line that gets replayed over and over again. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the candidate and will lose. >> style is substance. >> wouldn't it just be easier to have a hot dog eating contest and call it a day? anyone? >> that's not helping. >> with 36 days until the presidential election and 47 hours in the debate the pressure is mounting. bill o'reilly tried to tell republicans to calm down about the debate. that they're expecting way too much of mitt romney. but this being bill o'reilly, he ended up putting even more pressure on romney. >> i think the expectations for the debate are too high. particularly conservative republican americans are expecting mitt romney to go out there and do something and i don't know whether that as even p
w. >> chris christie said the next day will be romney's time to shine. >> don't expect any zingers. >> governor romney is getting by on a zing and prayer. >> i don't know that zingers necessarily turn it around. >> that zinger and that line that gets replayed over and over again. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the candidate and will lose. >> style is substance. >> wouldn't it just be easier to have a hot dog eating contest and...
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and the things they told me were things like why did george w. bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear, i think they have heard a lot about the economy, and they're not interested in the nimine nush that. so it's really about style skbrchlt i don't think you're going to upset a lot of people except maybe candidates because a lot of people come away, honestly, carol, from these debates and talk about what we will talk about years after the fact. it is the one liners, it is looking at your watch and where did he have to go. >>>? that kind of thing is very dipity because it's a performance buy these guys. truly. >> it is. it is and that's why i call it a performance art. i hope they are preparing, you know, like, al gore should not have been sighing as he did, in his debate with george w. bush. they have to concerned every gesture they make. every little smile that might be inappropriate. so that's what i'm going to be looking for, i teach stud
and the things they told me were things like why did george w. bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear, i think they have heard a lot about the economy, and they're not interested in the nimine nush that. so it's really about style skbrchlt i don't think you're going to upset a lot of people except maybe candidates because a lot of people come away, honestly, carol,...
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george bush was long gone. that's the first george bush. and george w. bush's election. there is a lot of talk about october surprises. it is very rarely a reality in presidential elections. i know of none. this election, it's going to take a dramatic change in the basic dynamic of the election for running to win. i understand why people are trying to get it back. i want to make one more point. this is a classic case of what is called the fault of war. initially, after any kind of military conduct, attack whatsoever, there is an enormous amount of confusion. barack obama is winning on terrorism and he has launched 270 drone attacks against pakistan versus 40 for george w. bush, 47, excuse me, for george bush. he has a very strong numbers on terrorism and will not lose on this issue. >> i will go back to you in a second, but my question is there is confusion when something like this happens, but that was not the message that we received after these murders. they didn't say we were confused. they can say we were still sorting the information and we don't want to get out ah
george bush was long gone. that's the first george bush. and george w. bush's election. there is a lot of talk about october surprises. it is very rarely a reality in presidential elections. i know of none. this election, it's going to take a dramatic change in the basic dynamic of the election for running to win. i understand why people are trying to get it back. i want to make one more point. this is a classic case of what is called the fault of war. initially, after any kind of military...
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they blame george w. bush. and he is, in a sense, the elephant in the room. something too embarrassing to mention, but something too overwhelming not to matter. and there's other poll data that kind of suggests that consciously or not, when people are going to the polls, they are thinking about maybe we're going to return to george w. bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult l
they blame george w. bush. and he is, in a sense, the elephant in the room. something too embarrassing to mention, but something too overwhelming not to matter. and there's other poll data that kind of suggests that consciously or not, when people are going to the polls, they are thinking about maybe we're going to return to george w. bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i...
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bush, clinton and perot. in the second debate, george w. bush is behind. he needs to have a game changing moment. instead -- there was this moment when people thought he was disinterested and couldn't connect. >> yes, how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them? >> i think the national debt affects everybody. obviously, it has a lot to do with interest rates. it has -- >> she's saying you personally. >> on a personal basis. how has it affected you? >> has it affected you personally? >> i'm sure it is. i love my grandchildren. i want to think they're going to be able to afford an education. >> president bush there unable to connect with that voter looking at the watch, a lot of people at home found that disrespectful. to 2000, look at the gyrations in this race. this was right after the republican convention. al gore gets back in the hunt after his convention. they come to the first debate wit
bush, clinton and perot. in the second debate, george w. bush is behind. he needs to have a game changing moment. instead -- there was this moment when people thought he was disinterested and couldn't connect. >> yes, how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them? >> i think the national debt affects everybody....
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w. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a gap between winning and spinning, with the first presidential debate now history, the verdict is in. a string of pundits agree, and so do observers and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one, romney. the left-leaning slate.com's john dickerson calling it the best moment of mitt romney's campaign. obama supporter andrew sullivan calls it the president's worst public performance bar none of his campaign. "time" magazine's joe kline asked did the president send out his body double tonight. critical reviews across the board. the consensus and also the political reality now staring team obama in the face. there is also no denying that no matter who wins or loses a given debate, each side immedia
w. we begin tonight keeping them honest with a gap between winning and spinning, with the first presidential debate now history, the verdict is in. a string of pundits agree, and so do observers and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one,...
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body language makes a difference in the debate between al gore and george w. bush as well. gore sighs over and over again and bush, the underdog, surprises by winning the debate and of course, the election. both president obama and governor romney are seasoned debaters, and experts say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us, when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. joining us now to talk about the moments and debate magic yet to come, republican consultant romney 2008 campaign advisor, alex castellanos and donna brazile. a lot of folks are saying these debates are do or die for romney. donna, do you agree? >> absolutely. first impression is very, very important. mitt romney had several opportunities to change the trajectory of the campaign, his selection of a running mate, paul ryan, got a small bounce. the convention speech didn't get any bounce, and now the first debate. this is like the first night on broadway. there will be more voters tuning in, they will be looking at his performance and if h
body language makes a difference in the debate between al gore and george w. bush as well. gore sighs over and over again and bush, the underdog, surprises by winning the debate and of course, the election. both president obama and governor romney are seasoned debaters, and experts say neither are prone to making major gaffes. but if there is one thing that history has taught us, when it comes to presidential debates, expect the unexpected. joining us now to talk about the moments and debate...
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tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them, but it would be of watergate proportions. for people who don't want the numbers to trend, i suppose in a somewhat positive trend -- john harwood is not, this is not hos ana hosana is it's absurd and a complete distraction from what the report says and what's happening in the economy. >> john harwood gave excellent perspective. these numbers are not a celebration. this is a continuing story line. the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just poi
tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them,...
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and even though he had more facts and sharp answer, heefls deemed the loser to george w. bush. and the debates didn't affect the race in 2008 between president obama and then the senator and then john mccain. there is no doubt that paul ryan is expecting romney to go very hard at president obam asuggesting that there has been a sort of a misleadingleading ad deceptive framework for the campaign. mr. romny and ryan are trying to frame this as a choice between the dependency society and the romney society, which they say is built on independence and personal responsibility. watch. it. >> i know what president obama has done. i know the empty promises, broken promises. i know the ugly, stagnant economy. what are mitt romney and paul ryan offering to get us back on track? i think that's what we will get out of wednesday. if we get that out, the country understands the choice. >> stop lying, mr. president. >> lying? >> yeah! >> what's the lie? >> governor romney is not talking about tax cuts for the wealthy. he says that the wealthy will take just as much under the romney administra
and even though he had more facts and sharp answer, heefls deemed the loser to george w. bush. and the debates didn't affect the race in 2008 between president obama and then the senator and then john mccain. there is no doubt that paul ryan is expecting romney to go very hard at president obam asuggesting that there has been a sort of a misleadingleading ad deceptive framework for the campaign. mr. romny and ryan are trying to frame this as a choice between the dependency society and the...
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in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to do is to get people who don't think obama has earned a second mandate, he's got to get them to think he deserved to replace him. there is room to make that case. i don't think he's made that case so far, but we're talking about tinkering around the margins. i think both sides are going to -- democrats are going to vote democrat, republicans will vote republican. >> and john mccain who knows more than a little bit about what it's like to be in a presidential debate had this take on "morning joe" today. >> i think for us to raise the expectation, he's
in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to...
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it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the unthus see amp level was very low. in the last poll it had increased to 82%. >> that's understandable. >> romney? >> no, we're getting a little bit closer to the election. people are paying more attention to the election. when you see the polls and try to understand why the numbers are so different between romney and obama, you have to understand the great majority feel that democrats represent their interests and care about their issues more than republicans. and what has hurt republicans is that very negative rhetoric on the immigration issue. that has hurt republ
it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the...
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w. how -- from your perspective and from the commanders in the field, how do they assess the strategy and the withdraw schedule? >> you know, when i first got here i sat down with general allen, the commander of all the international forces here and i asked him, i said, is this 2014 withdraw timeline, is it too fast? are you having to train afghan forces too fast? he said in many ways it makes it easier for them, allows them to focus as they try to move on toward that goal. no general i've spoken to has contradicted the leadership from white house. they know where their marching orders come from. they've been given an order and say they can do it. by 2014 they can largely hand over control to afghan forces. they're working, andrea, from every level from the top elite afghan commandos right down to local police made up of villagers and some cases who don't wear uniforms, but they are training them. the sense is this is our marching orders, this is what we've been asked to do and this is w
w. how -- from your perspective and from the commanders in the field, how do they assess the strategy and the withdraw schedule? >> you know, when i first got here i sat down with general allen, the commander of all the international forces here and i asked him, i said, is this 2014 withdraw timeline, is it too fast? are you having to train afghan forces too fast? he said in many ways it makes it easier for them, allows them to focus as they try to move on toward that goal. no general...